Pesticides are killing Us

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Shadowgirlau
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Pesticides are killing Us

Postby Shadowgirlau » Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:17 am

The following article talks about pesticides in our clothes however in my humble opinion this is only the tip of the iceberg as for many years I have long held the belief that pesticides along with manipulation is the reason for the increasing numbers of allergies. What I find even more appalling though is that these facts have been known for many years also and yet the practice of using chemicals and pesticides continues regardless. All Hail the mighty dollar!


Care What You Wear: Facts on Cotton & Clothing Production
{Pesticides in our clothes]

Farmers in the United States apply nearly one-third of a pound of chemical fertilizers and pesticides for every pound of cotton harvested. When all nineteen cotton-growing states are tallied, cotton crops account for twenty-five percent of all the pesticides used in the U.S. Some of these chemicals are among the most toxic classified by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. In developing countries, where regulations are less stringent, the amount of herbicides and insecticides and their toxicity is often greater than in the U.S.

* In California, five of the top nine pesticides used on cotton are cancer-causing chemicals (cyanazine, dicofol, naled, propargite and trifluralin).

* In Egypt, more than 50% of cotton workers in the 1990s suffered symptoms of chronic pesticide poisoning, including neurological and vision disorders.

* In India, 91% of male cotton workers exposed to pesticides eight hours or more per day experienced some type of health disorder, including chromosomal aberrations, cell death and cell cycle delay.

* In the US, a 1987 National Cancer Institute Study found a nearly seven-fold higher risk of leukemia for children whose parents used pesticides in their homes or gardens.

* The World Health Organization estimates that at least three million people are poisoned by pesticides every year and 20-40,000 more are killed.

* Over 1 million Americans will learn they have some form of cancer and 10,400 people in the U.S. die each year from cancer related to pesticides:

http://www.organicconsumers.org/article ... e_6347.cfm
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Re: Pesticides are killing Us

Postby minnie » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:01 am

Hi Kathleen,

DH worked on the cotton many years ago and said it was the most hideous industry for pesticide use! Which is why regardless of how often people say it's safe to feed cattle cotton seed we don't!

Well we did a tiny bit (mixed in other grain) when we started fattening the boys, but it was a short week and we had the organic food, we breathed a sigh of relief and said no never again!!
:D
Vicki

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Re: Pesticides are killing Us

Postby BJTJ » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:52 am

On the occasion when my fruit trees or veges get some sort of infestation, I get asked why don't you spray them????? My answer is I have the attitude of "toughen up princess" either get over it or go!! I allow my plants to work their way through their bugs and slugs and haven't lost any trees yet, maybe a few veges but thats life. I do not want pesticides on our food. Bel

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Re: Pesticides are killing Us

Postby Shadowgirlau » Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:14 pm

Here! Here!
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Re: Pesticides are killing Us

Postby BJTJ » Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:41 pm

yes still have the same attitude!!
Bel

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Re: Pesticides are killing Us

Postby Shadowgirlau » Mon May 06, 2013 9:41 am

DH hates weeding and recently sprayed the weeds around my garden. I didn't go too close was his response when I told him for the umpteenth time that I don't understand why he does this when he knows I hate it. :x Water off a ducks back though!

Much prefer natural means to treat any infestation that can't be worked through myself and while I too hate weeding I will do it in preference to spraying. My parents are living with us at the moment while their new house is being built and they have been placing a rock boundary around all my trees then covering the inside in with a layer of smaller stones to protect the root area from the chickens whom I will let out to free range. This also helps slow the water down when it rains so it doesn't all run off before it gets a chance to soak into the ground. To cut down on the weeds growth Mum places newspaper around inside the circle before putting the smaller stones in place. The property is starting to look way tidier!

Kathleen
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Re: Pesticides are killing Us

Postby minnie » Tue May 21, 2013 3:08 pm

Hi Kathleen,

Sounds like things are coming together :D how's your house going??

It's been too long since we spoke, still spinning my wheels a bit over here. :roll:

For the first time I'm thinking of poison in my garden, I think the quickest way to get my herb garden going with all the weeds is to poison the lot and then cover with paper and mulch, sand and soil but when I ever get to it I may relent.

:D
Vicki

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Re: Pesticides are killing Us

Postby Mojojo » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:14 am

Vicki, I am with you, I detest them also. If you understand that weeds flourish for a reason, and that they do have a job to do, you can work towards minimising them by adjusting their environment so that they do not do so well. THis is what we are working towards....Already in bringing up the PH, we are seeing a good reduction in guildford grass.
Meanwhile:

We have found an organic herbicide. After untold hours weeding in the garlic, and a never ending battle in the grape paddock with the whipper snipper, spotted this one. Its called Bioweed.

Still a herbicide, I know, but its not a nasty trademarked chemical. Based on pine oil, smells like pine o clean. Available in Perth at EE Muir in Wangara, and maybe soon at the Dardanup farm shop. Expensive. $180 for a 15 litre drum, and its a 1:5 mix with water. So for five acres of grapes it will be about $800 - $1000 a year for a single application - this is enough to take care of 80% of the weeds though, and help reduce the weed seed burden. We are down to using it at half the recommended strength and still working well. It works by dissolving the coating of the plant's leaves, dessicating it, and not systemic like roundup etc, so if you miss bits of the plant, it can recover - depending on what the weed is. It is completely decomposed (the pine oil) in 72 hours. You can see the weeds darkening and dying within half an hour. It also works on weed seeds in the top couple of millimetres of soil if you spray it on thickly, or onto a prepared seed bed. No withholding period. May be trying this next year with the garlic area as a pre-plant spray - considering the $600 in backpacker labour, plus our countless hours we had to spend on weeding this year for only 600 square metres, I think a drum at $180 for an acre next year might not be a bad investment.

While we have not done this, because I don't use glyphosate, apparently a tiny tiny amount of glyphosate in the mix will improve the efficacy of both by multiples.

Only thing is,I detest the pine-o-clean smell!

You know the other interesting thing with herbicides such as roundup, and zero? They only need to label the ACTIVE ingredient - being glyphosate. They do not have to label the other ingredients. Given that most glyphosate based herbicides are at less than 40% glyphosate, which is bad enough... what is in the rest of it? :shock:
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Re: Pesticides are killing Us

Postby Shadowgirlau » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:43 am

Hi Jo,
I haven't heard of the bio weed solution. Very interesting. Have my parents living with us at the moment and my Mother swears by another weed killer which I can't remember the name of right now. It apparently is also one of those allowable by organic growers and is very expensive ($85) for a litre. Thanks for the information.
I still tend to hand weed myself and drive my husband mad because I will not let him spray anywhere near the house vege garden or orchard.
Will have to look into this bio weed stuff.

Cheers
Kathleen
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Re: Pesticides are killing Us

Postby minnie » Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:44 am

Hi Jo and Kathleen,

Have to admit glyphosate is doing a brilliant job of killing the lantana here with the splatter gun method. Small amount in water a couple of swipes when it's growing well and dead lantana, so no small root taking off as happens with pulling it.

It's also not causing soil erosion because it sits dead and then other plants grow underneath and it breaks down over time.

Huge problem with lantana here it's a shocker.

Like the sound of the Bioweed though, I've used Eco oil for a couple of things and they say it's good on veg etc, will read more though as I've used it on gardenia and another flower plant so far.

Time is flashing by the last year, and still we don't have our gardens done, loads of issues that hopefully will be under control in the next year.

Cheers,

Vicki


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